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    Open Thread: Rules Of Attraction

    An open thread for discussions of Rules of Attraction.
    April 18, 2005
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    Category: Rules Of Attraction
    Comments: 22
    Comments continued below.

    Previous Comments

    [1] On Apr-19-2005, Kyle wrote:

    This one's my favorite.



    [2] On Apr-19-2005, Chris Fabulous wrote:

    Mine too.

    CF



    [3] On Apr-21-2005, Anonymous wrote:

    Mine too.

    I thought that everybody's favorite was either Less Than Zero or American Psycho... but mine is definitly T.R.O.A.



    [4] On Apr-21-2005, Marc wrote:

    I like this one the most as well because I liked the movie. I love the first page -how the book starts. And like it or not, I love how the movie ends more than how the book did.



    [5] On Apr-24-2005, suicide wrote:

    this is easily my least favorite



    [6] On Apr-25-2005, Cakes wrote:

    This is my favorite as well because being a Junior in college, the feelings of emptiness captured in ROA are unbelievably similar to my own experiences. This book changed the way I look at fiction and how it can be written.



    [7] On Apr-25-2005, Jonathan wrote:

    I actually saw the movie before I read the book, and now I really dislike the movie. I felt like it didn't capture the sadness in the book. It left out what I thought were really great, important scenes (like when Bateman goes back home and doesn't remember anything about it). I dunno. The movie just seemed like it almost glorified the absurdity of college even though it was pretty clear satire. But it didn't seem to take the characters as seriously as I thought the book did. And I like Roger Avary as a director. I'm just not sure he got the book or purposely kept a lot of crap out of it. The tone seemed much lighter.



    [8] On Apr-26-2005, Felix wrote:

    I agree with you, the tone of the movie goes into a different direction, it's more a comedy. But if you adapt a book and make a movie out of it, you have to reduce the material. I think Avary did a great job, I love the Sean-Lauren encounter-scene and the suicide in the bathtub was intense too. But of course the movie cant compete with the book.



    [9] On Apr-26-2005, Kyle wrote:

    Oh my God, the scene with Sean and Lauren in the hallway made me want to marry Shannyn Sossamon. Ugh. And I love the song they play as they're waking up. Ughhghghghg.



    [10] On Apr-28-2005, SirAD wrote:

    I totally agree. the OST is really great. Not my fave book, though (well, actually, second to Glamorama)but Avary really did a fantastic job, even if the movie was mcuh lighter than the book.
    I really don't understand those who enjoyed the movie American Psycho, it was so lousy Less than zero was even better...Well, there was also American Psycho 2....hahahahahaha




    [11] On Apr-28-2005, Felix wrote:

    A little off topic, but whatever... I enjoyed the AP movie a lot (of course it's not as good as the book and I also dislike a lot of things, but the casting is great). It's a little too much concentrating on the humorous aspects of the book. In my opinion the LTZ movie sucks.

    What didn't you like about the AP movie?



    [12] On May-01-2005, LaCrosse wrote:

    Does anybody know if the Paul Denton character appears in any other book by Ellis? I mean Victor, Lauren and Sean do.



    [13] On May-02-2005, Kyle wrote:

    Isn't Paul in American Psycho? I would have sworn he was. I think Patrick refers to him as a fag. I might be wrong.



    [14] On May-02-2005, Eredsox wrote:

    Paul is also mentioned in Glamorama by the Girl who tries to divert Victor to go to Paris instead of London. When he tells her he went to Camden she asks if he knows Paul Denton and he replies " Paulie Paulie Paulie"



    [15] On May-05-2005, Marc wrote:

    Yes, Paul Denton is in AP. But Bateman doesn't know who he is.



    [16] On May-05-2005, michael wrote:

    I was another who saw the movie first, and thought it was an amazing movie; of course then i read the book but the thing i like about both is that they really complement each other. I actually found the movie very dark, and the book had more of a tone of sadness to it. I can't really fault either for what they are - my only real gripe with the movie is that they didn't bring one of patricks scenes in which screamed out for a christian bale cameo!



    [17] On May-05-2005, Chris Fabulous wrote:

    my only real gripe with the movie is that they didn't bring one of patricks scenes in which screamed out for a christian bale cameo!

    That wouldn't have really made much sense, though. The Rules movie is supposed to take place in the present - in other words, it's "updated" - while the Psycho movie still takes place in the 80s - like the book. I don't think of them as being set in the same "universe" like the books are.

    CF



    [18] On Jun-06-2005, bg wrote:

    The book was my favorite Ellis novel, but I was greatly disappointed in the movie.

    The movie characters were huge departures from the people described in the book with possible exception for Paul Denton. Lauren, IIRC, was blonde, probably WASPy and from Conn. (IMHO, the better casting decision would have had Kate Bosworth as Lauren); Sean, depending on the narrator, was described as anything but James Vanderbeek (sp, sorry), though I didn't have a huge problem with Vanderbeek himself.

    The 80's was an extremely important setting for the book and should have been used as the setting for the film adaptation. The drugs, the background music and the political references would have added much more to the film than what we saw. I'm curious why Avary discarded the 80's for the film.

    The Campus: Camden is essentially Bennigton, VT in the book. The dorms, the town and the townies and the scenery is New England. The film had some snowy scenes, but otherwise the film campus looked Californian.

    I could go on...



    [19] On Jun-20-2005, abarine wrote:

    The movie did the book a huge disservice by messing with the timeframe, partially in moving the story fromt he 80s to the 90s, but more in making the movie a flashback. The party at the beginning in the book is in Lauren's freshman year; by the time she meets Sean, she's no longer virginal and is sleeping with him (hence the pregnancy, etc., etc.). The timing in the movie makes Lauren a totally different character than the book intends.



    [20] On Jun-28-2005, bg wrote:

    Lauren's intro flashback, IIRC, did take place in her freshman year and she was anything but virginal by the time she paired with Sean. In fact, Sean seems to approach his relationship with Lauren with an endearing level of innocence (even as he sleeps with her best friend) while Lauren acts noncommital.



    [21] On Jul-22-2005, martyn wrote:

    Any idea what happened to Sean after he left Camden?
    And why the character of Judy in the movie renamed Lara???



    [22] On Sep-20-2005, anthony wrote:

    I´ve read that something of Donna Tartt went into Lauren Hynde. Could this be true?
















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